Premiering on Discovery+ starting September 2nd is the brand new three-part documentary sequence ‘House of Hammer,’ which was directed by Elli Hakami and Julian P. Hobbs.
The sequence revolves across the lifetime of disgraced American actor Armie Hammer and the alleged crimes of his well-known rich household. In 2021 the actor was accused of sexual abuse and cannibalistic fetishism by a number of of his ex-girlfriends, which has derailed his profitable profession, marriage, and general life.
Hammer’s Aunt, Casey Hammer, serves as a guide on the challenge and can also be interviewed within the sequence.
Moviefone not too long ago had the pleasure of talking with Casey Hammer about ‘House of Hammer,’ how she obtained concerned within the challenge, the stunning reality about her highly effective household, and her nephew’s public downfall.
You can learn the complete interview under or click on on the video participant above to look at our interview with Casey Hammer about ‘House of Hammer.’
Moviefone: To start with, how had been you approached to be a part of this documentary sequence?
Casey Hammer: So, how this all sort of occurred was about eight years in the past I wrote an autobiography referred to as “Surviving My Birthright,” and I self-published it. It was extra of a therapeutic journal for me and to make sense of how I grew up within the course of, and that it wasn’t okay. When I obtained the primary copy, I used to be holding it, and it’s like I manifested it, my story is actual. “I’m validated, right?” Every every now and then somebody would possibly discover it, as a result of once more it was self-published on Amazon.
Then quick ahead final yr, I’m working as a kitchen designer at Home Depot in San Diego and certainly one of my coworkers are like, “Casey you better get on TikTok, someone by the name of “The Zen Blonde” is blowing up your life.” I used to be like, “What?” I’m social media challenged anyway. So, we get on-line and I watch Lauren Skae learn my e-book and in two hours I went from 500 followers to five,000. I noticed the facility of social media and I used to be like, “What is happening?”
All of a sudden all the pieces was uncontrolled. I did not select to place any of that on the market or wish to come ahead, and it was like being on a demise drop of a rollercoaster. In that second, I actually imagine the universe stated to me, “Casey, you have an opportunity.” As Armie was imploding, I used to be getting calls from the media as soon as they discovered he had an aunt, they usually wished a sound chunk.
I did not wish to take part in his implosion. It was like, how can I flip this into one thing optimistic? So, it was to be an advocate for victims and survivors, and that is sort of how that occurred. Then the producers reached out to me and stated, “We read your book, and we want to tell your story.” I believed, that is the way it continues.
It’s by my eyes. In a way of you might tune in to look at it due to Armie or the leisure worth, however by the point you end watching three hours of my household, you’re going to be incensed and livid. You’re going to see multi-generational abuse and the way none of them have ever been held accountable. It’s a sample. You do not simply get up in the future and turn into a monster, it is a discovered habits.
But once more, I had no concept that the victims had been going to return ahead and converse, or that different individuals would corroborate my story. I take my hat off to them as a result of they’re doing actual time. I lived with this for 62 years, however the victims are in all probability being attacked on social media. I understand how harsh that may be. So once more, for them to bravely converse, it simply means the world to me and hopefully helps different individuals come ahead.
MF: Since the topic of the sequence is your personal household, was there ever any hesitancy in your half to be concerned with this challenge?
CH: Absolutely. I feel that whenever you’re on the proper path, once more, I’ve self-medicated my complete life, and it is solely been the final yr and a half that I’ve not. So, I’m sitting with feelings and triggers, and attempting to determine my life. I feel whenever you’re in your path, it occurs in a short time.
It would not provide you with time to course of and be like, is that this a good suggestion or not? It’s sort of like, okay, test in together with your intestine. This feels good, I’m serving to individuals, and you retain going. You do not have time to essentially cease and say, “Wow, was that the right choice?” I attempt to not stay with regrets. So, I attempt to select within the second. And once more, with me, you make a selection, and when you don’t love the best way it feels or what it is doing, you possibly can select one thing else.
So, it is all new. Like I stated, I did not go on the lookout for it. I simply know that my household could be very highly effective, and nonetheless has some huge cash and fame behind them. The manner I grew up, whenever you walked out the entrance door, you had been digicam prepared. You lived an ideal life. You had been managed by my grandfather who managed the narrative, and also you did not mess up otherwise you had been punished and threatened of being disowned or abused.
There’re every kind of issues that I element much more in my e-book that we did not have time to enter as a result of we solely had three hours. But it is fairly horrific to know that the boys get away with this and proceed to get away with it.
MF: Can you discuss in regards to the habits you observed rising up from the boys in your loved ones? Was their disrespectful remedy of girls one thing that was taught to every new era of male heirs, or reasonably simply witnessed habits that they ultimately discovered?
CH: I imply, once more, my mother left my father, and my father was an solely baby. When my mother left my father, my grandfather destroyed her in court docket. So, at a really early age, I noticed what he was able to doing. So, you lived in concern. I do know that I used to be put in a variety of conditions that as a toddler I should not be. I imply in ‘House of Hammer’ you see I’m 11 years previous holding a telephone e-book whereas my father shot at it (with a gun) in entrance of individuals. It’s like I used to be a celebration trick.
But once more, I stored going again considering that my father cherished me, that my mother cherished me, and that every one of that is regular and what regular households do. Without social media, you possibly can’t Google, “What do wealthy families act like?” You simply sort of existed. It wasn’t like I may go to the neighbors and ask if that was regular, as a result of if my grandfather caught wind that I used to be asking, misbehaving or speaking, I used to be in huge bother.
So once more, you are groomed in a manner as a result of that is your actuality, that is your regular. I imply individuals watch the docuseries they usually’re like, “Oh my God. That’s so horrifying.” But to me it was like, that is how I grew up.
Growing up and being an grownup girl, you do not suppose something’s fallacious till individuals begin pointing issues out and also you sort of go, “Well maybe I guess that is true.” But that is as a result of different persons are speaking. So, it makes me see a part of my story in another person, and hopefully that is what I’m doing, if that is smart.
MF: According to the sequence, as a result of your loved ones was so highly effective and rich, you felt that you just had been unable to report the crimes you witnessed rising up as a result of they’d simply be capable of repay the authorities and canopy it up. Can you speak about the way you handled that at such a younger age?
CH: Again, as you noticed within the docuseries, my father murdered somebody, and my grandfather purchased him off as self-defense. My mom instructed me, “I was standing right there.” My father just pulled out a gun and shot the guy, it was like no self-defense! So, I saw murders covered up and I think the power is in the fact. It’s not necessarily that they committed the crime, but they got away with it and covered it up very publicly.
So, my grandfather believed that everyone had a price, and he blackmailed everybody. It’s not that you have this helpless feeling, but again, women were disposable in my family. So, I was told be pretty, don’t say anything that’ll embarrass us, and you’ll be taken care of the rest of your life. I was never taken seriously. No matter how smart or successful I was, it didn’t matter. But you try to get their attention because you want to be validated.
Even as an adult now, I find myself again with the docuseries, and yes, I participated in it, but when I finally sat down to watch it, I got triggered. It’s horrific because that’s my life. Again, they only had three hours, there’s a lot more that can be told.
MF: As you just mentioned, you were told growing up, “Don’t say anything that’ll embarrass us, and you’ll be taken care of the rest of your life.” But you endured so much mental and physical abuse from your own family, how is that “taking care of you?”
CH: Again, it’s growing up with threats, and you see in the last episode what I’m up against. I refuse to live in fear because then I’m giving my power away, and that’s something that I won’t do ever again. It stops now, and I want to feel empowered that I take back my own life and my healing.
And if something happens, we’ve got a docuseries out there now. They shined a light on it. I used to make jokes that if something ever happens to me, look at my family first. But now it’s crazy because it’s a reality.
MF: We live in such a fractured world now, and with social media, anybody can threaten or bully anyone else very easily. Did you have any concerns making this series that you would be harassed, not just by your family members for telling the truth, but by online trolls as well?
CH: Again, my conversations are basically based on my experiences growing up. I knew Armie as a child up until about 15 years ago when my mom passed away. We were all still held together by her, the “fake family.” We pretended to all love each other and hangout kind of like ‘Succession,’ but a million times worse. We all spent a week together with her as she was dying, and then afterwards everyone went their separate ways. It was just, so this is the way it’s going to be, and you kind of make peace with that.
So, I don’t care to have conversations with any of them. It’s one of those things where I’m just going to continue to live my life and to speak my truth, and hopefully, by bringing awareness, people will still talk about it, and they’ll shine a light on consent, accountability, and advocacy for victims and survivors. I hope to continue talking about it or write another book to just keep saying, “There’s a problem.”
Because again with the MeToo movement, it shined a light on businesses, so people can’t necessarily get away with things in the work environment anymore. But there has to be a MeToo for the home also. Just because your parents give birth to you and you think they love you, it doesn’t mean that it’s true, right?
MF: The series is not a tabloid show about a disgraced movie star, but rather seems to use Armie’s story as a vehicle to empower women to be strong in the face of abuse. Can you talk about that?
CH: I didn’t look for this. I mean Armie got careless and he started this downfall and implosion all on his own. But because that happened, it shined a light on my family. I mean there was a documentary about their fraudulent art last year on Netflix. I mean there’s been stories, but people are choosing not to listen to them because again, the men in my family, they enter a room and they’re like politicians. Everyone loves them, they’re charming.
So, when they look at someone like me and say, “Well you fell out of graces with the family, you must have done something wrong.” They don’t know the real story. So, a lot of my friends are like, “I had no idea that you went through all that.” I was like, “I’ve been saying that, but no one listened.” So again, it’s one of those moments where I didn’t choose this and for whatever reason, the universe had chosen it for me and wanted to see what I would do with it.
MF: How much input did you have with the producers to decide what was actually going to be included in the three-hour series?
CH: None. I basically was just like the other people that contributed in a sense, where I just talked on camera about my experiences. I gave them access to the photos and videos that were in my storage unit, just so that they could get a history. There were a couple authors that had worked with my grandfather and wrote books about my grandfather that came forward and were happy to share their situations.
Then again, with my father, there was a lot of information that I could pass on to the producers. I really believe that out of all the people that I was approached by, they would take care of my story because they wanted to go through my book and talk about my version, my story, and my feelings. They really did take care of it. I’m so proud of ‘House of Hammer.’ I watch it as a person, and I’m like, wow. But when I watch it as a family member, I get triggered because it is hard. It’s one of those strange things.
It’s like Space Mountain at Disneyland, where you go one way seven or eight turns and then all of a sudden, the last one is a different way and you’re like, “Oh my God.” You’re laughing hysterically and crying because it was so much fun. I’m just saying that’s how I feel right now. Kind of out of control, in the dark, fun, and wild. If any of that makes sense?
MF: Through the course of making this series, did the directors discover anything about your family that came as a surprise to even you?
CH: Yeah, or that I had forgotten about. Because again, it was my twenties and thirties where I was pretty much medicated a lot. Then the fact that the authors came forward, and some of the family friends that were in it as well. Again, it wasn’t like we all talked about it back then or continue to talk about it, but when it’s on camera in your face, you’re like, “I didn’t know that.”
I knew my grandfather was powerful. I knew that when I asked him why he didn’t want to be president and he said, “There wasn’t enough power in it.” But hearing President Kennedy’s voice on the series, I mean there were things that just take you back a bit. Because again, my grandfather always controlled the narrative. So, we knew the fairytale version of what he wanted to portray out in the public.
MF: Finally, speculating about your nephew’s acting career moving forward, do you think he has a road to redemption in Hollywood, or in your opinion, is he done being a movie star?
CH: My experience growing up was that my father was in and out of mental institutions, and he was in and out of rehab per my grandfather. So, my father never got well. Until the person holds himself accountable and makes amends with the survivors, the victims, and the people they’ve wronged and choose to get well or healed, it’s not going to happen. It’s not going to work.
So, for me, I have the image that just reminds me that here we are with another Hammer man in the press messing up, and the only difference is my grandfather’s not here to cover it up or buy his way out. But again, the Hammers feel that they’re basically not accountable for anything, like they’re above it all. That’s what money, power and fame does to people. As you see, it’s multi-generational, so it’s a learned behavior and an expectancy.